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Can anyone tell me the difference between the characteristics between these two shafts, I am on Callaway Staff and I ordered a new set of 09 X-Forged Irons with Project x 6.0 shafts, has anyone switched from Dynamic gold to project X and can you tell me if there is much of a difference in the flight characteristics? I guess if I don't like them I will Keep the 07 irons.
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Greenepro2008 wrote:Can anyone tell me the difference between the characteristics between these two shafts, I am on Callaway Staff and I ordered a new set of 09 X-Forged Irons with Project x 6.0 shafts, has anyone switched from Dynamic gold to project X and can you tell me if there is much of a difference in the flight characteristics? I guess if I don't like them I will Keep the 07 irons. Really depends on the type of Dynamic Gold shafts you played before. I will assume being on tour staff and picking 6.0s, that you either played x100s or S400s. I recently switched from x100s to PX 6.0s. Now, there are LOADS of opinions out there on this topic, and this is just mine. BTW, my swing stats... 110-112 mph driver, 83-86 6i with about 175 yards carry... Weight - x100s heavier (130g vs. 125g) Stiffness - x100s SLIGHTLY stiffer Trajectory - x100s low to mid, 6.0s mid to mid-high (NOT high). 6.0s being slightly less in weight I feel helps get the ball in the air. However, I have NO issue hitting my 6.0s low if needed. x100s start low and ride a pretty consistent trajectory, 6.0s get up fast and flatten out. Workability - Much easier time working the ball with 6.0s. Probably because they are slightly less stiff, so hitting a hard draw is MUCH easier. Distance - 6.0s about 5 yards longer than my x100s (slightly less spin, more carry, and easier time hitting a draw).
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Thanks for the reply, just got them today so we shall see how they workout!
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Greenepro2008 wrote:Thanks for the reply, just got them today so we shall see how they workout! Let me know what you think. I think the feedback in the PX is greater too. Bad shots feel harsh. But I am OK with that.
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I just bought a new set of 09 Callaway forged irons with Project X flighted 6.5 shafts. I used to play with Dynamic Gold S300 shafts which is equivalent to a 5.5 Project X Shaft!
I changed to the stiffer shaft to decrese my ball flight as i hit the ball high and cause my club head speed with a 6 iron alone is 100mph!
Hope this helps! Chris
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I have been to the range, and played a 18 holes with them and the ball flight was about the same as my old set, although the distance with the 09 X Forged was about 5 yards a club longer, But I don't Know about the new wedges I got, X Tour 56 and 60 degree wedges I got them with the Mack Daddy grooves and They EAT golf balls!!! Might have to put the old wedges back in the bag!!! I have a New FT-9 on order and it has not arrived yet, but after watching Phil bomb it past Tiger at The Masters I can't wait to get my hands on it. Anyone hit it yet?? What did you think about it?? As always thanks for the imput.
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I think the distance comes from the launch/spin. PXs get up quickly and spin a little less, so maybe a little more carry (longer hangtime, more piercing flight).
I'm not a Callaway guy. Phil was hitting past Tiger because Tiger is trying to hit it straighter, not longer. But not taking anything away from Phil, he is super long. Not sure who would be longer if both were ripping at it. Hard to think that Tiger wouldn't outdrive Phil in a Long Drive contest.
I've hit the FT-9 with the Mitsubishi Fubuki 73 X, Diamana Blue Board 73 X, Diamana Red Board 73 X and Matrix XCON 6 X. Like the Matrix the best, then the Fubuki. I did not hit the standard Fujikura ZCOM X. Both Matrix and Fubuki had a mid/high launch with LOW spin numbers. Neither put up the numbers that I get with my current setup, Nakashima NP-1 460 9.5* w/ Matrix XCON Altus X.
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Randomhero, we have similar numbers my Driver swing is 110 to 115 last time I was on a launch monitor I was fitted into a Diamanna Blue Board 73g Stiff in a 9 Degree head, Currently I am playing a 9 Degree Hyper X with an Aldila NVS 65 gram that has been tipped an inch (I got it in pink and it doesn't come in Xtra stiff) This is by far the best Driver I have ever had as far as Length and accuracy, and it definitly gets the members talking!!! I carry it 285 yards and everyone I have talked to says the FT-9 is 20 yards farther than the driver they were previously hitting, That obviously wasn't the case with you, I am looking foward to getting mine. I hit a 10 degree FT-9 IMIX and it wasn't bad just a little higher than I like to see. Thanks for your feedback...
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I probably should be playing a strong flex matrix shaft (between stiff and x-stiff). I went with x-stiff because I just like the feel better. I can't stand having a noodle in my hand. I'm probably loosing 5-10 yards, but I like the feel, control, workability.
I am not a fan of the stock ZCOM shaft. WAY too flexible and light for me. But, I could see how people can get huge gains from a shaft like this. Most people play a shaft that is TOO stiff for their swing, so they buy this in a stiff, when it really doesn't play STIFF, and start drawing the ball and getting it airborne with the right amount of spin.... all that equals added distance.
When you have SS like ours, its tuff to use a OTR or "made for" shaft. We need something with some beef. Not tour beef, but a little more substance that a OTR shaft. I've hit the R9 stock, FT-9 stock, and S9-1 stock. Only one I got good numbers out of was the S9-1 stock... Why? It has a Matrix XCON 6 shaft. It's a touch more flexible than a manu. direct Matrix XCON 6, but I thought that was a good thing. It helped get the ball airbore a bit more, but still was VERY low spin.
That's why you need with a high SS, low spin setups. Lower SS need more spin and more launch angle.
Let me know what you think of that FT-9.... BTW, what shaft did you go with???
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I feel like a kid at Christmas waiting for Santa, Everyday I wait for the UPS truck; and so far no Driver!!! I think I am somewhere behind Rocco as far as pecking order. I ordered it with the Zcom stiff hoping to get it fast!!! Because I have a couple of backup and demo drivers, if I don't like the Zcom, I have a FT-5 with a Diamanna 73g stiff shaft that I'll put into the FT-9. I hit the R9 with the stock shaft in it and thought it was pretty stout, especially for the average player.
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Greenepro2008 wrote:I feel like a kid at Christmas waiting for Santa, Everyday I wait for the UPS truck; and so far no Driver!!! I think I am somewhere behind Rocco as far as pecking order. I ordered it with the Zcom stiff hoping to get it fast!!! Because I have a couple of backup and demo drivers, if I don't like the Zcom, I have a FT-5 with a Diamanna 73g stiff shaft that I'll put into the FT-9. I hit the R9 with the stock shaft in it and thought it was pretty stout, especially for the average player. R9 is decent. Plays OK for me in x-stiff. I just think all of these "made for" shaft/driver setups are spin monsters. Like you said, great for the average guy (who needs a higher launch and more spin), but can get ugly for us. I am sure you wil have it soon.
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randomhero1090 wrote:Greenepro2008 wrote:I feel like a kid at Christmas waiting for Santa, Everyday I wait for the UPS truck; and so far no Driver!!! I think I am somewhere behind Rocco as far as pecking order. I ordered it with the Zcom stiff hoping to get it fast!!! Because I have a couple of backup and demo drivers, if I don't like the Zcom, I have a FT-5 with a Diamanna 73g stiff shaft that I'll put into the FT-9. I hit the R9 with the stock shaft in it and thought it was pretty stout, especially for the average player. R9 is decent. Plays OK for me in x-stiff. I just think all of these "made for" shaft/driver setups are spin monsters. Like you said, great for the average guy (who needs a higher launch and more spin), but can get ugly for us. I am sure you wil have it soon. I agree totally with your view on the Made for shafts, I on the other hand am a swinger that needs a stiff shaft that is a bit soft, so the Made for shafts are perfect for me, I tried the Zcom 60 reg shaft and it just wanted to baloon, the Diamana BB stiff in the ()(D2 feels solid but I can load it and get great launch and low spin. I can see how you guys would find a Made for shaft a bit soft, I am glad you didnt put down the Made for shafts like most fast swing speed guys do, as they are still great shafts, but just not as stiff as the Aftermarket ones. Happy golfing.
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justin007 wrote:randomhero1090 wrote:Greenepro2008 wrote:I feel like a kid at Christmas waiting for Santa, Everyday I wait for the UPS truck; and so far no Driver!!! I think I am somewhere behind Rocco as far as pecking order. I ordered it with the Zcom stiff hoping to get it fast!!! Because I have a couple of backup and demo drivers, if I don't like the Zcom, I have a FT-5 with a Diamanna 73g stiff shaft that I'll put into the FT-9. I hit the R9 with the stock shaft in it and thought it was pretty stout, especially for the average player. R9 is decent. Plays OK for me in x-stiff. I just think all of these "made for" shaft/driver setups are spin monsters. Like you said, great for the average guy (who needs a higher launch and more spin), but can get ugly for us. I am sure you wil have it soon. I agree totally with your view on the Made for shafts, I on the other hand am a swinger that needs a stiff shaft that is a bit soft, so the Made for shafts are perfect for me, I tried the Zcom 60 reg shaft and it just wanted to baloon, the Diamana BB stiff in the ()(D2 feels solid but I can load it and get great launch and low spin. I can see how you guys would find a Made for shaft a bit soft, I am glad you didnt put down the Made for shafts like most fast swing speed guys do, as they are still great shafts, but just not as stiff as the Aftermarket ones. Happy golfing. Yes, there is a HUGE difference in the "made for" shafts now. You are playing shafts with the same technology as aftermarket shafts (Matrix, MD, Fuji, etc). Just usually, the "made fors" have higher torque numbers and softer tips. The reason? MOST people play 1-2* too low of loft. If they then played a tip stiff shaft, they wouldn't get the ball in the air. So, instead of pissing people off, the manu's just make the shafts softer in a stiff flex. So I stiff plays like a regular, or even softer. Tiger is playing a 10* driver this week. I'm playing 9.5*. Something is wrong with that picture. Don't care if I have a 115mph swing speed.
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