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stackandtilt
Posted: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:00:41 PM

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Looks like his spine angle changed at impact.
Maybe a bit of spine angle change is OK ?
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larrybud
Posted: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:50:14 PM

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Almost every pro has their hands (and shaft angle) higher at impact than setup. Setup is NOT mirrored at impact. Hands are farther in front at impact, body (hips and shouldres) are open to the target at impact (as Crane's is).

I'd have to see the video to see if his spine angle changed, since the camera angle could be fooling you (The camera is outside his toe line).

As far as the spine, remember that your spine is NOT in the center of your torso, but pretty much at the surface of your back. Your spine also is not straight, it curves in 3 places. See
http://www.safety.duke.edu/Ergonomics/Images/Stretches/spine.gif
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randomhero1090
Posted: Monday, April 05, 2010 2:12:56 PM

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Looks good to me. Right forearm and shaft in line. Agree with Larry, have to see the video.
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Shanks_A_Million
Posted: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:28:21 PM

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All two plane swingers reach the ball at a steeper plane than address. This is why the toe of the clubs points off the ground at impact (and toe down effect as well). The spine angle should stay the same, but it doesn't always. Some people have to make corrections to get to the ball.
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randomhero1090
Posted: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 8:59:44 AM

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Shanks_A_Million wrote:
All two plane swingers reach the ball at a steeper plane than address. This is why the toe of the clubs points off the ground at impact (and toe down effect as well). The spine angle should stay the same, but it doesn't always. Some people have to make corrections to get to the ball.


Well... Goes for one-plane swingers as well.

http://perfectgolfswingreview.net/swingplane.htm

Probably the best article regarding this topic i've ever read.


You really should try to maintain spine angle. Yes, there are PROS who have a bit of a thrust, but they are PROS. 1st that comes to mind is Peter Lonard. However, this is NOT a move you want to build into your swing. Peter is a REALLY strong guy, built like a rugby player. This puts some serious stress on your back, and go figure Peter is out right now for hip/lower back surgery.

Again, if you find Peter's swing, this isn't something you want to mirror. You are better off finding a way to maintain spine angle.
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randomhero1090
Posted: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 2:02:44 PM

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http://www.swingacademy.com/videoPlayer.aspx?id=2850

Before I fully understood why most pros are ABOVE their address shaft plane at impact. Now I know better.

What an amazing swing.
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