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Q: How Big a Back Swing is needed ? Looks like JB Holmes doesn't need a big one. And he's one of the longest hitters on Tour.  Here he is depicted at the Top of the Backswing !
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Shoulders turn to 90* and further, hips barely move. Huge amount of separation and creates serious torque.
Very late hinge allows some serious downcocking during the transition. JB POWERS his hips through the entire downswing.
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randomhero1090 wrote:Shoulders turn to 90* and further, hips barely move. Huge amount of separation and creates serious torque. Big shoulder turn, no hip turn = Powerful. That's the X-Factor. People say that's not in favor any more ! http://www.swingacademy.com/forums/yaf_postst160_Is-Xfactor-key-to-power-in-the-Golf-Swing-or-Myth.aspxhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiB_TbPgIrYQuote:Very late hinge allows some serious downcocking during the transition. JB POWERS his hips through the entire downswing.
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 Quote:JB Holmes Golf Swing Power Source
I just got done watching The Golf Channel’s Playing Lessons With The Pro’s. They had JB Holmes on it, so since I’m a big believer in the advantages of power in your golf swing, I watched it (Tivo of course).
Look at his address position above. A really strong grip with his left hand turned over the top of the club quite a bit. Also, notice his ball position. Off his left foot instead of the heel. This could be the camera angle, but I’ll bet it’s pretty accurate.
What I see immediately in his swing (this is with a golf driver) is the minimal wrist cock at the top of his golf swing. So many teaching pro’s advocate a full wrist cock for maximum power, but he’s proving them wrong isn’t he.
But…what he does do is a FULL shoulder turn with a restricted hip turn creating maximum torque in his core area. This is the engine to his golf swing, and creates a tremendous amount of golf swing speed.
Notice on the way down, JB has a tremendous rotation of his lower body. His teaching pro on the show mentioned this is his power in his golf swing. The aggressive move of his lower body starting his downswing. He mentioned on the show, he feels like he pull’s down from the top. No wrist release (casting) of the club.
Please take note, it is not a slide of his lower body, but a rotation. He quickly follows his hips with his core, chest and shoulders aggressively turning through impact.
One thing he mentioned that I thought was interesting, was his “hands getting ahead of the ball” even with a driver. I had never heard of that before. He says it gives him that whipping effect very late in the swing maximizing his clubhead speed through the ball and not before it. He also, said it delofts his clubs making the ball fly lower and run after ground contact.
I find it interesting to see all the different golf swings on tour and how any of us can find a tour player to emulate with our particular body structure.
If you are not a full wrist cock kind of golfer, JB Holmes might be a swing you’ll want to try. source: http://www.secrets-of-golf.com/blog/page/2/index.htm
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Look at the bottom row, 1st picture from the left. Look at how flat that left wrist is well after impact. Notice from that picture, to the one to the right of it that his hips CONTINUE to rotate. They never stop rotating.
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randomhero1090 wrote:Look at the bottom row, 1st picture from the left. Look at how flat that left wrist is well after impact. Notice from that picture, to the one to the right of it that his hips CONTINUE to rotate. They never stop rotating. RH - What's up! Anyway check out this article I wrote near the bottom I address this very thing with Rory M. If you had a rear shot of JB you would see his hips do stop turning as the hands come through. http://thebestgolfchannel.wordpress.com/2010/04/13/efficency-of-movement-vs-micro-moves/
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Backswing should stop when the shoulder turn stops.
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eekkk~ watching his swing feels like its gonna screw around with mine! lol but like jim furkys he def has his own backswing/takeaway but his down swing has all the same fundamentals~ he seems like he goes out of plane going back but once he goes down he goes back to the correct swing plane! just like jim! so basically, the power comes from the core/legs/hip (lowerbody) and not from the hinge whcih jb would be teh prime example!
ps. i dont like his swing... lol feels like im watching someone in the senior tour taking a back swing! not that im better than jb! lol
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 Maybe JB Holmes has a "Bigger" backswing than we thought ! Hmmmm ...
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