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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdLVvfGbcYEI love how this shows the plane from The P5 position to P6 position. - starting at 2 minutes. It's neat how the club tracks above the plane (but parallel) from the P2 to the P6 position.
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I have noticed that many of the great players today have have a similarity in their impact positions: their shaft returns to the same plane that it was at address, with their hands returning to the same spot as at address (from target view). I've also notice that many amateurs fail to do this (no matter how hard they try). What do you think are the main causes this? What can one work on to help them achieve this impact position?
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It takes a lot of work. I now bring a video camera to any driving range session, just put it on top of my stand bag and let it run. Also you need a mirror in your basement or whatnot to check your backswing position. One great tip I heard is to imagine a playing card in your right palm. On your backswing, picture trying to show your card to someone standing down your target line, over your right shoulder, behind your head. It keeps you wide and on plane. Getting back to impact is harder, as it combines hip, shoulder, and hand turns. A mirror in front will help. Also, check out the Golf Fix videos on golfchannel.com and look for the coat hangar drill.
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BCHenley wrote:I have noticed that many of the great players today have have a similarity in their impact positions: their shaft returns to the same plane that it was at address, with their hands returning to the same spot as at address (from target view). I've also notice that many amateurs fail to do this (no matter how hard they try). What do you think are the main causes this? What can one work on to help them achieve this impact position?
Not at all true, not even 1%. The address and impact position are not supposed to be the same. Amatuers often are way too steep into impact, but I can only think of one great player who came into impact on the shaft plane, and that's Moe Norman. But Tiger, Phil, Jack, Arnie, all of them set up and impacted in different positions. If your hands are in the same spot at impact as they were at address, you've flipped and are way under plane.
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Shanks_A_Million wrote:
BCHenley wrote:I have noticed that many of the great players today have have a similarity in their impact positions: their shaft returns to the same plane that it was at address, with their hands returning to the same spot as at address (from target view). I've also notice that many amateurs fail to do this (no matter how hard they try). What do you think are the main causes this? What can one work on to help them achieve this impact position?
Not at all true, not even 1%. The address and impact position are not supposed to be the same. Amatuers often are way too steep into impact, but I can only think of one great player who came into impact on the shaft plane, and that's Moe Norman. But Tiger, Phil, Jack, Arnie, all of them set up and impacted in different positions. If your hands are in the same spot at impact as they were at address, you've flipped and are way under plane.
Shanks,
Take a closer look at many pro players and the shaft IS returned to the same/very similar angle (lie wise), but NOT loft wise (hands ahead of the ball). If you flipped it your hands would NOT be at the same position (unless you setup with the shaft leaning a few degrees back)
So my question to you is: Why are players coming in steep ?
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