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Since I've been on SA, I've been getting suggestions on my swing concerning my shaft plane. As it is, the shaft plane at impact is always above the plane at address. My bad shots are weak push fades and duck hooks, which I think are consistent with how my shaft plane at impact is. Is there anyone out there in SA world who at one point was not able to achieve this, but now can? If so, how? What drills? How difficult was it? What were your results?
I have been trying to get to this position for a while now, and frustratingly, I cannot. I don't know if it is my address, or the way I initiate the downswing, or what...
If someone can help me achieve this, I will give them 100 trillion dollars (not really, but I'll give you mad kudos)...
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One thing I am going to work on is my head position. I noticed that in all my swings, my head moves back (to the left from target view) significantly. I was just watching Wayne Defransesco's video on Sergio and Player's swing. He noted that Sergio kept his head forward throughout the back- and downswing. Illustratively, if one were to draw a vertical line in front of his head, his head would not move from it. Player did this, too. He noted that this action promoted them to get their hips "deeper," meaning more rotated, and also kept the distance between the hands and body the same at address vs impact. As a result, the shaft plane remains constant. For Player (and Hogan), the plane was slightly shallower... which is crazy.
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I don't know who told you you should come down on shaft plane. No one comes down on shaft plane, well, maybe someone does, but it's nearly impossible. You want your hands to be higher at impact. At address, draw a line from the ball through your elbows and another from the ball through your shoulders. You want to be between those two lines.
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Thanks Shanks,
I actually didn't say "come down" on the shaft plane, and I didn't mean to suggest it. What I meant was that AT impact, the shaft plane has returned to the same plane that it was at address. Ergo, after the shaft leaves the initial plane during the backswing, it returns to it on the way down... I understand that many do not do this and even suggest not to. However, I see that many players (woods, hogan, garcia, player, nicklaus when he was younger, and many others) do/did this and are/were very accurate. Two people who are advocates of this is Wayne DeFransesco and Hank Haney.
I don't know, maybe it's not a big deal... I didn't really worry about it today and shot even (after 14 holes, it got too dark to finish). I could have been much more accurate with my irons, though.... and putting reeked.
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http://perfectgolfswingreview.net/swingplane.htmThis is still the best article i've ever read on this subject. There are several planes you can evaluate during the swing. And there are all sorts of swing "models" if you will... S&T, MORAD, TGM, rotary/1PS. It really depends on what you do. I've seen your swing Henley. Its very nice. Very much like Tiger where your swing plane DROPS from the top. The angle of the shaft doesn't change as much as the postion of the plane.
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Thanks Hero,
Yeah that link you attached is pretty good. Yeah, a lot of the players back the in day were below the address shaft plane.... crazy... Anyway, I guess it's not a big deal. I just need to work with what I got. Anyway, I need to be working much more on my short game anyway. I'm about to post on that.
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