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One Plane Cut "Hogan's Secret Angle" Options
BurleyGolf
Posted: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:00:53 PM

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Hey guys I have been working on a new swing since last year an have a very good product. The One Plane Cut is based from Ben Hogan, David Duval's and VJ Singh's swing and some of Jim Hardy's theory of One Plane.

I just finished my book snd it will be avalible through my website www.BurleyGolf.com ""SOON"". Feel free to discuse any question you have with me here @ SwingAcademy.com. Look forward to talking with you.

One Plane Cut
Hogan's Secret Angle
http://www.amazon.com/One-Plane-Cut-Swing-Hogans/dp/1438973225/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_a
hogansangle
Posted: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:06:16 PM

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If I'm not mistaken this methodology creates a pleasant acceleration of the club at approach? The release is similar to the two handed basketball pass which Ben Hogan described in "Five Lessons?" Except in this swing the action occurs at and through the ball, or what is considered 'on angle?'
BurleyGolf
Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:03:22 PM

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The basketball thought should be more of a keep away move, when you have someone coming from your right and you pull the ball and turn left. Good thought though! His angle increased through the ball but was pre-established at the top. Part of it was from the torque and the other by his own means in his swing. I do not think he tried to do it in play but believe at one time was a rehurst move on the range, until habit took over.
Keiko
Posted: Thursday, September 03, 2009 2:43:13 PM

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I figured you had to be selling something.
If you believe in it so much, why not just give away the techniques for free.
Hawking on a website like this is a little unethical.
BurleyGolf
Posted: Friday, September 04, 2009 7:36:45 PM

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Keiko wrote:
I figured you had to be selling something.
If you believe in it so much, why not just give away the techniques for free.
Hawking on a website like this is a little unethical.



Well, I guess your idea of "Hawking" is just that an idea. I have helped many on this site by given my time to advise on instruction, the owner of this great website (Rick) is well aware of my post and is happy to have me as an Instructor here @ SwingAcademy. I am extremly good at what I do with my students and I have to make a living just like anyone else. No one is forced to buy anything, they do it because they want it, and I have had 100's of emails from people who are very happy with my new book. Not to mention I was granted full rights to the use of Ben Hogan's Name, Image, and His book Five Lesson from the Heriss to the Hogan Estate. My book was reviewed by people in the Hogan circle who knew and played with Hogan, and all gave the thumbs up to the Estate. Get your facts strait before you make random post, I recieved a few email's from people on SwingAcademy to notify me about you hatefull comments.

Best Wishes,

BurleyGolf-
Keiko
Posted: Saturday, September 05, 2009 1:27:10 PM

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Burley is not qualified to be teaching anyone.
Immature folks hawking a website are just that and nothing more.
My advice is to ignore his so called "teachings" and go see a real pro.
I have been playing and teaching for 45 years and other than offering a few tips now and then on various sites, I would never try to sell my methods via the web, it's cheap, ineffective and downright dishonest.
BurleyGolf
Posted: Saturday, September 05, 2009 4:30:54 PM

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Thank You both for the kind words.

Best Wishes,

BurleyGolf
Shanks_A_Million
Posted: Sunday, September 06, 2009 1:55:49 AM

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I hate to stick up for him, but he is a golf pro. He's sponsored by Cleveland, that I know.
Brother
Posted: Sunday, September 06, 2009 4:11:46 AM

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I don't know this actually looks kind of interesting to me, even though everything I hit is a cut, its the draw I struggle with. However, I just don't do well reading and translating instruction from a book or magazine, I'm much better if I see actual video so if it were a instructional DVD I'd certainly be more inclined to buy it. I'm kind of an instructional DVD junkie, heck I even bought Chuck Quinton's DVD though I can't say I got a lot out of that one.

http://fantasycaddie.blogspot.com
Keiko
Posted: Sunday, September 06, 2009 2:53:16 PM

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You are a salesman trying to sell your product.
Just because some find fault with your using this or any teaching site to sell your product doesn't make them "bad posters"
And, yes this thread needs to be closed.
I'm glad you and the site administrator consulted with one another and could agree on things and it was very magnanamous of you to fight to keep the thread open for us. LOL
Now go hang with the other 20 somethings until mommy calls you for dinner.
I noticed you didn't offer one insight into a chapter in your book that "changes the golf swing forever."
Golfmeister
Posted: Sunday, September 06, 2009 6:30:03 PM

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Ya everybody, i know Blake Burleson coaches one nationwide tour player and is coaching several PGA Tour players. Blake has some great insights to offer and i have actually bought his book on Amazon.com and read it carefully. Blake was recommended to me by Mike Shannon my putting instructor who has 40 PGA Tour students including Lucas Glover the current U.S. Open Champion. So don't be so hyper-critical. Attack his concepts but not the man's credentials without knowing the truth. Mike was a pro at Augusta National in the 80's and played the tour. Mike has personally met Ben Hogan...so Mike knows who the real deal is and who is not.

Be kind on here and you might learn some things from Blake.
softconsult
Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 8:45:11 AM

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I said I wouldn't, but I must finish with this.

Go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB0tno95L_w&NR=1

This is Burley Golf's You Tube Promo for the book.

There is no information there, none, other than a couple of
pages where he shows the book title etc. The rest is
simply photos, drawings, the badges, and a Texas song.
The bloody thing repeats itself half way through.

There is also this floating picture of Einstein. Is
he trying to make a connection between himself and Einstein?
A legend in his own mind.

Draw your own conclusions.
Brother
Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:29:39 AM

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softconsult wrote:

A legend in his own mind.



Yeah, I have to admit I did kind of get a chuckle that he considers himself the 3rd best golf instructor in the world.



TOP 14 Golf Instructors in The World


1.) Andy Plummer

2.) Mike Bennet

3.) Blake Burleson

4.) Jeff Evans

5.) Sean Foley

6.) Nick Clearwater

7.) Dana Dahlquist

8.) Butch Harmon

9.) Justin Hill

10.) Suzy Whaley

11.) Mac O'Grady

12.) TJ Tomasi

13.) Mike Maves

14.) Gary Edwin


Poor David Leadbetter doesn't even make the list neither does Jim Hardy, Hank Haney or Jim McLean for that matter.

http://fantasycaddie.blogspot.com
BurleyGolf
Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 3:32:44 PM

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Golfmeister wrote:
Ya everybody, i know Blake Burleson coaches one nationwide tour player and is coaching several PGA Tour players. Blake has some great insights to offer and i have actually bought his book on Amazon.com and read it carefully. Blake was recommended to me by Mike Shannon my putting instructor who has 40 PGA Tour students including Lucas Glover the current U.S. Open Champion. So don't be so hyper-critical. Attack his concepts but not the man's credentials without knowing the truth. Mike was a pro at Augusta National in the 80's and played the tour. Mike has personally met Ben Hogan...so Mike knows who the real deal is and who is not.

Be kind on here and you might learn some things from Blake.



Thanks Golfmeister,

Mike is a very special person and he has strong insight about the putting stroke, and has a place in part of history as one of the few who were lucky enough to know Ben Hogan. I appreciate your kind words, and support.

BurleyGolf-

rick
Posted: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 8:12:22 AM

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Keiko wrote:
And, yes this thread needs to be closed.
I'm glad you and the site administrator consulted with one another and could agree on things and it was very magnanamous of you to fight to keep the thread open for us.


I cannot close this thread.. It's the most traffic my forum has received in months..

I do have a question though.. Blake's motives for posting and promoting himself are clear and transparent. What are the motives of the opposition?
munk24
Posted: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:37:10 AM

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Hey Keiko,

I havent read his book, though Im always interested in what some instructor might have to say.
Last time I talked to Rick Smith(and I did talk to him) he wasnt offering any free books or DVD's, Where do you teach so I can get my free lesson. Of course Im being hypocritical.
His theory will stand on its own merits, if its been working with his students, then why not try to sell it, its the American way. I didnt see you crushing on McLean, Smith, Pelz, Harmon or any others who have their each technique and sell them . I dont know Burley, I havent watched any of his videos, but Im always interested in what people know or think they know about Hogans swing. Ive got McLeans video, Hogans books, VJ Trolios excellent book and video, and I learn a little from all of them. Hey its free enterprise.

munk24
Posted: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:08:39 PM

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Hey I meant sarcastic, not hypocritical, sorry guys
BurleyGolf
Posted: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 3:34:27 PM

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softconsult wrote:
I said I wouldn't, but I must finish with this.

Go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB0tno95L_w&NR=1

This is Burley Golf's You Tube Promo for the book.

There is no information there, none, other than a couple of
pages where he shows the book title etc. The rest is
simply photos, drawings, the badges, and a Texas song.
The bloody thing repeats itself half way through.

There is also this floating picture of Einstein. Is
he trying to make a connection between himself and Einstein?
A legend in his own mind.

Draw your own conclusions.





This BurleyGolf's Youtube above that I was playing around with the video maker to get some ideas for my new DVD, that will be coming out soon with my friend and partner TGM Instructor Jeff Evans... The video got 1600 hits, LoL! Here is another one if you don't like Country Music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTKS1T2SwQY

Why would I give a bunch of information about my book, thats like telling the ending to a movie, Duh! The butler did it...

Einstein, LoL.. Yep! Everyone thought he was crazy and made fun of him till he, blew peoples minds that were close minded.

Next? Anything else you want to throw out about me that people already know? So far you have proved that I have a strong desire to help others, I instruct golf @ the higest level, I am a great marketing person, I have skills in video creation, I am a Author, and I have a learning disablity, but I was able to graduate college. Man, you make me look good.
TheBigChop
Posted: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 8:00:08 PM

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Hey Everyone...I'm new to this site but a friend of mine (Blake Burleson) thought I should come by and give some insight. I work at a local golf shop that Blake frequents and we got to talking about golf swing theories and I discovered that we thought along the same lines, but he was much more advanced than myself. Now, I'm not a pro, and quite frankly, I think people get too wrapped up in the pro versus everyone else in the golfing world. I was a 3 handicap golfer before meeting Blake, and after BUYING and reading his book and being lucky enough to speak to the man at least a few days a week, I have to say that I'm a believer in him and his skill. I have NEVER hit a golf ball as well as I do now and I believe that is due to Blake's insight. To all of his critics, I really must suggest that you actually listen to him with an open mind. His swing ideas are not really extreme or revolutionary, but actually get you thinking from a different perspective. So, go ahead and spend a few dollars on his book and read it with an open mind, instead of thinking that you have every answer about the golf swing. No one will ever figure this game out and I think by listening to other views on the swing and incorporating the ideas that work for you into your swing, you can only become a better golfer. After all, that's exactly what Ben Hogan did.

Regards,
Tom
babosupaman
Posted: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 4:50:16 PM

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rick wrote:
Keiko wrote:
And, yes this thread needs to be closed.
I'm glad you and the site administrator consulted with one another and could agree on things and it was very magnanamous of you to fight to keep the thread open for us.


I cannot close this thread.. It's the most traffic my forum has received in months..

I do have a question though.. Blake's motives for posting and promoting himself are clear and transparent. What are the motives of the opposition?



LOL!!
I agree... I would've done the same if I was Blake! Why not right? lol
this thread was by far the most entertaining!

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